Murderball (2005): Is Zupan self-decieving himself by glorifying his misery ?

Is Zupan self-decieving himself by glorifying his misery ?

by CinematicExplorer (Tue Dec 5 2006 00:49:47)


"During a discussion after a festival screening of the movie, he [Zupan] was asked, "If you could, would you turn back the clock on that day?" You could have heard a pin drop as he answered: "No, I don't think so. My injury has led me to opportunities and experiences and friendships I would never have had before. And it has taught me about myself." He paused. "In some ways, it's the best thing that ever happened to me." Ebert Is Zupan self-decieving himself by glorifying his misery ?
Re: Is Zupan self-decieving himself by glorifying his misery ?

by JesusPlayingGolf (Thu Dec 7 2006 10:44:51)
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"self-decieving himself" With grammar like that, no one will take you seriously.
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by staledevil1221 (Sat Dec 9 2006 17:19:22)
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Your question is this, I edited it so it makes sense: " Is Zupan decieving himself by glorifying his misery ? " Your question is flawed from the start. Your concept of a disabled person suggests that they are miserable, period. Not everyone who is disabled lives a life of misery, pain and self loathing. Everything Zupan said in that quote can very easily be true, he's not miserable and he is making the best of the life he was given, end of story. Don't assume disabled people are always miserable.
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by nebraskagirl1 (Wed Dec 13 2006 15:20:33)
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I agree with the post that takes the assumptions in this question to task. I'd add that asking people to "turn back the clock" is a nonsense question because it asks for a nonsense answer. We are a compilation of everthing that happens to us. If you "turned back the clock", you could not begin to predict who you would be now. In my research of families who survive catestrophic circumstances, they describe what I have come to call "the new normal." Ideas of returning to normal are ludicrous, your normal is whatever and wherever you are. I was in a car accident 14 years ago. I fracture my odontoid (C-2), cracked the body of C-6 and fractured C-7. I had non-displacing fractures and thus, was not paralyzed although I wore a halo for 19 weeks. Due to my injuries, I have nerve damage in both arms. The medications I take are contra-indicated for pregnancy so my husband and I are not sure we can have biological children and I have daily pain. (this is not a comparison to the gentlemen in the movie, just a description of my experience) At least once a year, at physical therapy or in public, people ask me if I wish it had not happened. While I'd love to be out of pain cycles, spend less on medical bills, and not worry about the toxic effects of my medication (which is not pain killers, incidentally) on any future children, I know who I am from the past I have experienced, just like the rest of the world. If I change that, what other wonderful things from my life would I no longer have?
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by The_Black_Avenger (Wed Dec 27 2006 04:59:21)
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To be honest I think it makes for a more interesting movie but I think it's a perhaps inadvertent lie. The question I heard when they were on a talk show was "If there was a cure for your condition, would you take it?" And I believe 2 of the guys, including Zupan, said no. Which makes for dramatic moviemaking. But I don't believe it.
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by beat-takeshi (Sat Dec 30 2006 18:37:41)
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Like said a previous message here the question is non sensical anyway and you assume that quadriplegics are miserable anyway That would be like asking "If you could fly where would you go first ?" Possible answers : -(crazy/artist/dreamer) : "but I already fly". -(equally non sensical) : "I'd fly over the ocean" -(realist) : "Nobody will fly in a foreseeable future" etc...
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by TheGodfather1215 (Thu Jul 26 2007 20:07:07)
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UPDATED Thu Jul 26 2007 20:10:20
Im still a little hazy on what the original poster was actually asking. Are they asking if Zupan is being phoney when he says that the accident was a blessing in disguise? Well, the fact that he is now disabled allows him to travel the world. He has a hot girlfriend. His disabilty hasn't really slowed him down at all. If he never had the accident he would probably be in the same position as his friend Igo, just a sort of townie with a regular job, living a dull ordinary life. I think one of the things this movie was trying to show was that his friend, who everyone probably considers "the lucky one" because he escaped the accident basically unscathed, is not leading anywhere near the exciting life his paralyzed friend now is. So I know some people will probably roll their eyes when this guys says what happened to him was a positive thing, but I believe him. http://massopinion.blogspot.com/